The Second Concerning the Son. I. Since I have by the power of the Spirit sufficiently overthrown the subtleties and intricacies of the arguments, and already. The Fifth Theological Oration. On the Holy Spirit. I. Such then is the account of the Son, and in this manner He has escaped those who would stone Him, passing. Oration 1 · Oration 2 · Oration 3 · Oration 7 · Oration 8 · Oration 12 · Oration 16 · Oration 18 · Oration 21 · Oration 27 First Theological Oration Oration 28 Second.

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What then was Eve?

Fourth Theological Oration (Oration 30)

And again, His sudden turning to do us good is the waking up; for waking is the dissolution of sleep, as visitation is of turning away. Or does He preach the Gospel, and receive men’s faith against His will? The Deity cannot be expressed in words. He may even have received a measure of assistance from St Jerome and Evagrius Ponticus in their composition. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

Of the other titles, some are evidently names of His Authority, others of His Government of the world, and of this viewed under a twofold aspect, the one before the other in the Incarnation. He is said to reign in one sense as the Almighty King, both of the willing and the unwilling; but in another as producing in us submission, and placing us under His Kingship as willingly acknowledging His Sovereignty.

For all this was done by the action of the Begotten, and by the good pleasure of Him That begot Him. What could be clearer?

How then can you prations that all things before that hour He knows accurately, and all things that are to happen about the time of the end, but of the hour itself He is ignorant? They apparently were skilled in rhetoric and argumentation but of a kind of which Gregory strongly disapproves.

Petro Mohyla On the Orthodox Faith. Well, then, is not this “Created” said in connection with a cause? This, then, is my position with regard to these things, and I hope it may be always my position, and that of whosoever is dear to me; to worship God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, Three Persons, One Godhead, undivided in honour and glory and substance and kingdom, as one of our own inspired philosophers not long departed showed.

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Then shall come, the authority of the Spirit.

Away with a suspicion so truly slavish and unworthy of the Spirit! Following the deaths of his mother and father inGregory continued to administer the Diocese of Nazianzus but refused to be named bishop. A cousin, Eulalios, published several of Gregory’s more noteworthy works in For Their Being itself is common and equal, even though the Son receive it from the Father.

If you throw down the One, I am bold to assert that you do not orationa up the other Two. Garland Publishing,details Gregory of Nyssa ‘s adherence to the doctrine, while making no mention of Nazianzan. The “when” of this generation is indeterminate in that it took place beyond the sphere of time. If He is Unbegotten, there are two Unoriginates.

CHURCH FATHERS: Fifth Theological Oration (Oration 31) (Gregory Nazianzen)

Do you think he is talking nonsense? Where did you get this from? This page was last edited on 14 Decemberat He began by showing that the name which belongs to the Trinity fits the Holy Spirit, specifically, the true light that lights every one that comes into the world John 1: Please help support the mission of New Advent and get the full contents of this website as fregory instant download. Why not for this is a point on which we must have information? Other such terms are unbegotten, unoriginate, unchanging, incorruptible.

Everywhere one went, whether theaters, salons, funerals, or taverns, there one would hear people vigorously debating arcane points of theology. Patriarchal Cathedral of St. Further, the opponents argued, what ceases must have begun. In Gregory returned to Nazianzus and was ordained a presbyter by his father’s wish, who wanted him to assist with caring for local Christians.

Shall we bring an accusation against Solomon, or reject his former words because of his fall in after-life? For such is the nature of simple Existences, that it is not correct to say of them that they are Like in one particular and Unlike in another; but they are a complete resemblance, and should rather be called Ov than Like.

And yet on this point I cannot see where the difficulty is. And why should we deal kindly with you as not quite dead?

After the death of the presiding bishop, Meletius of AntiochGregory was selected to lead the Council. Faith Gives Fullness to Reasoning: At this point, Gregory retired to spend his days as a hermit. Orthodox Church in America. If then this account is the true one, let us thank God for the glimpse He has granted us; if it is not let us seek for a better. Then, when once men had submitted to the curtailment, they also yielded that which had been conceded to them; in the first instance the sacrifices, in the second circumcision; and became instead of Gentiles, Jews, and instead of Jews, Christians, being beguiled into the Gospel by gradual changes.

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But look at it in this manner: Now is this the Will of the Father, but not of the Son? The nature of God is not lightly and frivolously discussed. But, they go on, what have you to say about the Holy Ghost?

And if you are an Ithamar or an Eleazar and third from Moses or one of the elders and a member of the Seventy, stand even farther away, although you are third in rank. These names however are still common to Him Who is above us, and to Him Who came for our sake. But when all things shall be subdued unto Him on the one hand by acknowledgment of Him, and on the other by a reformation, then He Himself also will have fulfilled His submission, bringing me whom He has saved to God.

He gave a laundry list of such, including “the Creator-spirit, who by baptism and by resurrection creates anew,” and the Spirit “that deifies; that perfects so as even to anticipate baptism. For neither has any one yet breathed the whole air, nor has any mind entirely comprehended, or speech exhaustively contained the Being of God. For since we are governed by these three things, the fear of punishment, the hope of salvation and of glory besides, and the practice of the virtues by which these are attained, the Name of the God of Vengeance governs fear, and that of the God of Oratiosn our hope, and that of the God theopogical Virtues our practice; that whoever attains to any of these may, as carrying God in himself, press on yet more unto perfection, and to that affinity which arises ot of virtues.

Nazianzus answered that in such a case, there is no comparison of value as there is when “god” is said of both the Father and the Son without granting divine worship to the latter. This process as described by Gregory is the public manifestation of the process of deification theosiswhich leads to a spiritual elevation and mystical union with God.